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In California, the worst measles outbreak in fifteen years is spreading.
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The virus is roaring back into the headlines tonight.
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An outbreak somehow traced to
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someone who has probably caught measles abroad
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visited Disneyland, and may have sneezed.
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Measles on the march in America.
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This outbreak is showing no signs of letting up.
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There are already more cases this year than there were in the...
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In 2014, the number tripled to 644 measles cases
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reported in 27 states.
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I mean, is this all basically because of the anti-vaccination movement,
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because the parents aren�t vaccinating their kids?
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Yeah, you know, I--I think so.
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A bill that would ban exemptions from childhood vaccines
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is advancing through the California legislature.
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We are authoring legislation that'll abolish personal belief exemption.
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I think you�re starting to see why it is that the mandates are so important.
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There has been some inaccurate information circulating about vaccines
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mostly stemming from a British study
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linking vaccines to autism.
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We still continue to hear that vaccines cause autism even though that�s been debunked.
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Repeatedly and thoroughly debunked.
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You may have heard vaccination causes autism
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in one out of 110 children.
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Fuck that! Total bullshit! It doesn�t!
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The bill requiring children to be vaccinated has passed with bipartisan support.
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Every child must meet immunization standards
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before joining public schools, private schools and daycares.
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I would strongly encourage everybody,
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look at the science, look at the facts.
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CDC, the Center for Disease Control can give you good information.
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Get your children vaccinated.
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Hello?
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I was sitting at my desk where I teach at Simpson University.
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My phone rings, and it�s Dr. William Thompson.
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Brian, you and I don�t know each other very well.
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I don�t know how this is all going to play out.
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You have a son with autism, and
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I have great shame now
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when I meet families with kids with autism
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because I have been part of the problem.
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My son, Steven,
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was born in February of 1998.
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Steve, what does the cow say?
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Two weeks after his fifteen month vaccines, then he lost all language.
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He lost all eye contact.
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You�d pick him up and he would just hang limp.
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This is a time where CDC was just starting
to do these studies on vaccines and autism.
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As a scientist, I have over 60 technical and scientific publications
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in major international scientific journals.
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And I was contacting CDC and was deeply critical of their studies.
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And so the CDC decided that the scientist
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who was going to interface with me at that time
was Dr. William Thompson.
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Because I was on his back, because he didn�t like
what I was saying about the statistics
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I received a letter from a CDC attorney in 2004
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saying that I was no longer permitted
to contact the CDC.
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Fast forwarding to 2014,
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Thompson said to me:
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�Brian, if you listen to me
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and if you do what I tell you to do
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I can guarantee you will be able to access
a treasure trove of data
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and I would like to guide you through these steps.�
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So, I want to be a resource, I want to be valuable to you.
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I want you to have someone in the system.
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For years
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I have been trying
to crack this edifice of the CDC
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and just getting little glimpses of what was not right.
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The CDC has put the research 10 years behind.
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Because the CDC has not been transparent
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we�ve missed 10 years of research
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because the CDC is so paralyzed right now
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by anything related to autism.
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I am a licensed clinical psychologist
and a board certified behavior analyst.
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In 1978,
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I want to say the prevalence of autism
was about one in 15,000 children.
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It was a very rare disorder.
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I was working at a clinic at UCLA
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which was pretty much the only known center
for treating children with autism
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and we had maybe 6 to 10 children who we were working with.
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Somewhere around the early 90s,
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shortly after I opened CARD,
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the growth of autism has been so high and so rapid
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that I�ve never felt like I could ever catch up anymore.
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From an official diagnostic perspective
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the way that we define autism,
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we were looking at deficits in two areas.
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The first is social communication and social interaction.
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And in that area
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we require three specific symptoms to be present,
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symptoms such as no social-emotional reciprocity
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no non-verbal communication � that means eye contact, for instance,
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or no development of relationships.
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The second required area of deficits is
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the presence of stereotypic, repetitive, restricted behaviors.
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And these are things like hand flapping,
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body rocking, insistence on routines being the same.
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One of the new additions
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is the presence of a sensory dysregulation.
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If a child has an inability to sense things correctly
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not necessarily hearing things the way we do
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that could be classified as a symptom of autism.
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So, if you have five symptoms
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two in the area of repetitive behaviors
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and three in the area of social communication deficit
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then you will get a classification of what�s called
Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD).
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We begin though, as always,
�Keeping Them Honest�.
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Breaking news tonight.
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Just hours ago, British Medical Journal (BMJ)
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did something extremely rare for a scientific journal.
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It accused a researcher Andrew Wakefield of outright fraud.
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I got a call on the 19th of May 1995
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from a mother telling me the story of her child
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his regression
into autism following a vaccine.
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And I said
'How can I help you?
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I know nothing about autism.
You�ve come through the wrong number.'
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And she said:
'No, doctor. My child has terrible gastrointestinal issues
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and no one will take them seriously.�
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I was an academic gastroenterologist doing research
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with the particular interest in Crohn�s
disease and ulcerative colitis
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inflammatory bowel disease.
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I knew nothing whatsoever about autism.
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When I was at medical school it was so rare
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we weren�t talking about it.
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We heard a succession of stories
which were very, very similar.
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Medicine is about 'pattern recognition'
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and there was a clear pattern emerging.
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So we decided, a group of us,
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including the world�s leading pediatric gastroenterologist
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at the time led by Professor John Walker Smith
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decided that these children merited thorough investigation.
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Well, Dr. Wakefield, as has been shown,
used absolutely fraudulent data.
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He created a fake paper.
The Journal allowed it to run.
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All the other studies that were done showed
no connection whatsoever
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again and again and again.
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So it�s an absolute lie
that has killed thousands of kids.
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What we discovered and reported
for the first time was this
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link between what appeared
to be a novel type of intestinal inflammation
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and autistic regression in previously developed,
mentally normal children.
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And among those, the majority have regressed into autism,
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according to their parents,
following the measles, mumps and Rubella Vaccine.
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It wasn�t our place to censor that story
because it may be uncomfortable for public health.
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Our job was to report that story accurately
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in order that it might lead to further investigation.
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And the paper explicitly said:
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'This paper does not prove an association between
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MMR vaccine and the syndrome described.
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More work is needed to resolve this issue.'
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That was the conclusion of the paper.
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As an investigative medical journalist
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I�ve spent the last seven years working
on one of the best medical talk shows in the world.
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We know in medicine that there have been many, many studies
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proving that vaccines
do not cause autism.
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But the problem I have always had with that is
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is thousands and thousands of parents
all telling the same story.
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�My child got a vaccine, usually the MMR vaccine'
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and then that night or the next day broke out in a fever
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and then when they came out of the fever lost speech,
lost the ability to walk
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basically regressed into what we know as autism.
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And never came back.�
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Doctors used to be told to listen
to their patient.
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That was the cornerstone of medicine as we know it.
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But something�s changed recently where
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the patient doesn�t know
what they�re talking about
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and these parents with their story of their children
have just been written off
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as though they have no idea
what�s really going on with their child.
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I have two kids
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and anyone that has children knows
that when we first have babies
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we are overly sensitive to every little hiccup,
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every cough, every sniffle.
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So to say that the parent was just unaware
that the child had issues
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and suddenly they realized one year later that �Oh, they have autism�
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that doesn�t make sense to me.
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So I wanted to look into this story
and find out
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what is this disconnect between
medicine, science and real parents?
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I couldn�t wait to be a mom.
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I remember specifically,
before we even got married
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talking about how important children
would be in our lives.
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I wanted a daughter first
and I wanted a son.
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And we were planning on having four children.
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We were going to be the most
perfect parents that we could be.
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Bella was born and
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that was a wonderful experience.
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Bella was just this angelic, perfect child.
She hit all her milestones.
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I got pregnant with Billy quite quickly.
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Bella, say hello to Billy.
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We�ve now got a beautiful girl and a beautiful boy.
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Life was just amazing.
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So two, four and six months
Billy had his normal baby vaccines.
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A little bit snivelly, chesty, coldy
after maybe the last one.
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So me, in my �perfect mother mode�
rushed to the doctor.
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�Is he okay? Do I need to give him anything?�
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�Yes, you need to give him antibiotics
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just to make sure
there�s not an infection in there.�
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It didn�t clear up.
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Rushing back to the doctor,
�Oh, he needs more antibiotics.'
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So just keep this going in him.
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And I remember my mother calling me up,
my mother is a homeopathic hippie
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calling me out saying
�What are you doing? You're chucking those antibiotics down your son?
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For what?� And I�m saying to her:
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�Mom, with all due respect, you�re an artist
and they�re doctors, so they know best.�
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He was due his MMR vaccination
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So the morning exact to the day my friend, she said to me:
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�Listen, I heard that there may be a problem
with this vaccine you're about to take Billy for, the MMR.�
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And I said �Are you crazy? What is the matter with you?
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If there was a problem with vaccination
it would be headline news.
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The doctor would be calling me up saying
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�Do not bother coming in.
This is not a safe vaccine.�
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None of that is happening.
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You�re being negative and you�re being careless
and you�re listening to what? Some rumor that you heard somewhere.
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Billy could become deaf if I don�t take him in now
and get him his MMR.
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Most of the evidence linking measles with autism has kind of settled down
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and most of the doctors and scientists agree
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that it probably isn�t the major cause.
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I�ve been working in pediatrics for almost twenty years.
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I think most pediatricians
view vaccines as
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they�re the number
one thing they do for kids.
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I�m young enough
to not remember
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the days of kids in an iron lung
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because they were battling polio.
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You know, polio has essentially
been eradicated from this country.
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In �98 the Wakefield study came out.
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My son had just been born.
That study kind of pointed the finger at the MMR.
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As a parent, I was scared to give the MMR to my son
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and as a matter of fact, we...
I didn�t give it to him on time
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because I wanted to see.
I wanted to see what additional studies would show.
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And over time additional studies did show that it�s safe
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so he did get the vaccine.
You know, if everybody stopped vaccinating...
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we would be going back to the dark ages.
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When a CDC scientist
who'd been there at that time 17 years
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tells you:
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�This is how you access data�
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it didn�t take me very long to realize
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�Oh, I better do what he says
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because he knows what he�s talking about.�
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I just want to tell you one thing.
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Right now, I�m sitting in a very pretty position
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in terms of providing you a lot of information.
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He asked me:
�What data sets are you going to request?�
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and I said: �Well, I�m going to request
two of the studies you�ve done on Thimerosal
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the mercury containing preservative
that�s used in some of the vaccines.�
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And he said: �Well, that�s fine,
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but I want you to request the MMR data set first.'
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This is the study by
Frank DeStefano and his colleagues in 2004.
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It was the one study where
we could end up creating a mess
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while the CDC tries to sort out something they couldn�t understand.
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The day Billy got the MMR was a living nightmare.
It was the worst day of my life, to be honest with you.
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I came in and I saw him
lying in his cot, listless.
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He started this uncontrollable shaking,
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uncontrollable shaking!
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Imagine
coming out of a frozen pond.
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His eyes were doing this
and he was shaking like this.
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And I remember, she grasped him
and held him really tight to her chest.
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There�s immediate fear in John and there's immediate
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�Mommy, this is not going to happen'
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�I don�t know what is wrong with you
but this is not going to happen.�
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And we get to a hospital.
We rushed him in,
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doctors are coming in,
looking at him.
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That�s when they said:
�He�s had a reaction. He�s had a seizure.
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This is normal. This is common
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for many, many children
who have this vaccination.
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It�s absolutely okay. He�s going to be fine.�
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Nobody ever told me
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there would be any side effect
to any of the vaccinations my children had.
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Following his fibril convulsion
that he had the same day of the MMR
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we were told to take him home.
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He slept in the bed with us for the night.
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He seemed just very, very sleepy.
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In fact, he didn�t really ever wake up
to the Billy that we had before.
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For me, it became really necessary
to start looking at
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what types of medical issues are this children going through,
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what are the other factors that have affected them,
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that have brought them to this
level of symptomology that we call autism.
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This is now probably the mid-90s.
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I came to notice that a) there was a very high
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use of antibiotics amongst these children
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but b) what became pretty interesting was
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seeing the number of families
who were reporting
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that their child had a regressive
type of behavior occur
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right after their vaccinations.
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A lot of these parents were showing me
footage of their children
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who had been completely
developing normally until 18 months
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and then all of a sudden, post-vaccination,
had developed incredible regression.
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Children who had speech
anywhere or close to 50 to a 100 words
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had completely lost
all of their words.
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Children who were extremely attached
and interactive with their parents
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had suddenly become isolated,
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no longer responding
to their own name.
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This was all happening
right after their MMR vaccines.
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My oldest son, Ian, was born normal, developing normally.
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He was this beautiful boy and we ended up at our 12-month day, which is one year.
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Then they gave him multiple vaccines at once.
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And within seven days
he had a 104 fever,
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and a rash all over his body.
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He had previously been noted
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in our videos,
home videos, that he was walking
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and actually running at that point.
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Seven days after the vaccine,
he was no longer able to do that.
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He was falling down,
he became a really sick, sick little boy.
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So the question
for those of us investigating autism:
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Is age of exposure to MMR a risk for autism?
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And in order to understand why that might be
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you have to understand something
of a history of the MMR vaccine.
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In 1987, there was an MMR vaccine
that was being used in Canada
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produced by SmithKline Beecham (GSK)
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and that vaccine caused meningitis.
It was recognized quickly
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and that vaccine
was withdrawn in Canada.
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However, in the same month
that it was withdrawn in Ontario,
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it was licensed in the UK.
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The name vas simply changed
from 'Trivirix' to 'Pluserix.'
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In the UK, it was used for four years
and likewise it caused meningitis
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and had to be rapidly withdrawn.
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There was a public outcry,
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there was an acute loss of confidence
by the public in the vaccine policy makers
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and the vaccine should, at that point,
have been destroyed.
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It wasn�t.
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It was then shipped to developing countries,
like Brazil
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where it was used in a mass vaccination campaign.
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And there was an epidemic of meningitis.
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So, it was entirely predictable.
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Now, scientists studied that epidemic
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and what they found is that the risk for meningitis
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was associated with age of exposure.
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The younger you got the MMR vaccine
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the greater the risk of meningitis.
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For people like me, investigating autism,
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the question was:
�Is there a similar risk in autism?
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Is age of exposure to MMR
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a risk for autism
just as it was for meningitis?�
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We shared with the U.S. Congress and the CDC the hypothesis.
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The story as told to us,
on which we have an obligation to report,
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is that the majority of children regressed
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following a period of normal development
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in the face of MMR vaccination.
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That does not mean it is the cause of the disease.
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The Institute of Medicine is a body of scientists
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and physicians that review
the available data on vaccine safety
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and then advise our government
on vaccine research policy.
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Well, because Andy Wakefield
had put forth this theory that
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the age at which you receive the MMR
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may increase your risk of autism
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the IOM looked to the CDC
to do that very study.
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It was a study about timing.
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Does the earlier you receive the MMR vaccine
increase the risk of autism?
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When we talk about the MMR study
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nobody had ever requested those data
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because it was
a big secret that you can do it.
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Thompson told me
to e-mail such and such person,
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and then on the inside,
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I also found out that one of the people
preparing these data sets for me was Bill Thompson.
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They don�t really want people to know that this data exists.
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Again, just simply,
we can actually get you that data.
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Thompson couldn�t send these
documents directly to Brian Hooker
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because that would have been illegal.
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What Thompson identified was a legal loophole
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that is referred to
as a �citizen�s request�.
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That allowed Thompson
to deliver to Brian Hooker
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potentially classified information
in a legal way.
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You get checked in England with your babies
at certain times helped by health visitors.
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So nine months, Billy had his full-blown check
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and it says no parental concerns,
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baby laughing, babbling, talking.
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So, we passed that with flying colors.
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18 months is when they next come in
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and by this time we know
there�s something seriously wrong with Billy.
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Probably within five or six days,
the first sign really was this vacancy.
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He wasn�t the same
smiley little baby that he was before.
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He had a blank expression.
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Then the diarrhea kicked in.
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His tummy started to get bigger and bigger, bloated.
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Rock-hard bloated tummy.
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He would start to walk on tiptoes,
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his hair fell out,
and this dreadful
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high pitch scream,
sort of whiny scream developed from him
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and then came the head bang,
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the constant banging against his crib,
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the constant banging against the floor or wall
or anything that he could find to bang his head on
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he would trash it and trash it. .
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John and I would lie in bed at night
just listening to these thuds, thuds, thuds.
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There�s nothing.
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He�s now not even noticing
his sister he used to play with.
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John comes through the front door after work � no recognition
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that we were his parents
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or this child even belonged to us.
Nothing. Nothing. Gone.
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I mean, that was the time where
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our boy changed from what he was to...
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a real...
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a real tragic, tragic case
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of child who regressed
into this autistic state
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and lost everything.
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Lost everything!
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The CDC � the way that they do
research studies is very reactionary.
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They look
at something that�s creating the press
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and creating a buzz that
could actually lower vaccination rates
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and that�s what they study.
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They don�t study vaccines proactively.
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So if Andy had never done
his original study,
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gotten that published in �The Lancet�
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it would have never created the uproar that
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rightfully it should have created,
and the CDC would have never studied this.
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The press conference for 'The Lancet' paper was called
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by the dean of the medical school
who was the chairman of the media committee.
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I had done an extensive research
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into measles vaccine safety and MMR vaccine safety
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in the pre-licensing phase.
In other words, what safety studies had been done
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before these vaccines were
put onto the market and into children.
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The 250 page report
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was compiled by me
showing that the vaccine safety studies
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for MMR in particular, were lamentable.
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They were lamentable.
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Many, many assumptions have been made
about the safety of this vaccine.
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And there have been problems
which should have been airbrushed.
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So, I wrote to my colleagues,
and the dean, and I said:
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'Going forward there are going to be
questions about what parents should do next.
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I cannot in due conscience
support the continued use of the MMR vaccine
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having done this research.
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I said I will continue to
vigorously support the use of the single vaccine,
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but can no longer support the use of the triple MMR vaccine.
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So the dean, as chairman of that committee,
had three choices:
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he could have not had a press conference,
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he could have
banned me from the press conference
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or when the question
came up, as inevitably it would,
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�what the parents do next
about vaccinating their children?�
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he knew
what my response would be,
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he could deflect
the question to someone else.
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When the question came up on the day,
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he directed it straight to me.
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All I recommended at that press conference
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was that parents opt
for the use of the single vaccines
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single measles, single mumps, single rubella
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until the issue
had been resolved scientifically.
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What happened when I made that recommendation
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unilateral decisions were made
by the government in the UK to withdraw
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the importation license for the single vaccines,
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�Merck� opting in the U.S.
to cease the production of the single vaccines
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giving parents no option.
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I said to the senior
representative of the Department of Health
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�Why? If your objective is to protect children
against serious infectious disease,
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why would you take away the option of how parents do that?�
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And she said because if we allow the parents the choice of single vaccines
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it would destroy our MMR program.
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In other words, the concern was for the protection of the program
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over and above the protection of the children.
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No one�s career has ever been advanced
in the medical industrial complex
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by being outwardly and openly critical of the vaccine industry.
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I�m Mark Blaxill,
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father of a daughter diagnosed with autism back in 1998.
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I�ve written two books that have
come out of the autism movement
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that have been projected into
autism advocacy ever since.
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Michaela was born typical,
everything was fine,
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was developing normally
through her first birthday.
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We have vivid memories of early language
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joint attention, lots of play.
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She was adorable, beautiful, cute.
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And then somewhere in the months after
she began to slip away.
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She lost language and she began
to retreat into a world of her own.
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And at 2 years, 9 months
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we got a formal diagnosis
of full syndrome autism.
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It was a hopeless, pessimistic future
that was laid out in front of us.
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She was going to be disabled
for the rest of her life,
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likely to be non-vocal,
in an institution.
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And the best thing that we could do
was to accept the inevitable.
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Part of the story we heard
from the Harvard experts
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was autism was genetic,
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it was low and relatively
constant prevalence.
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And the more I learned,
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the more clear was that
that whole orthodox view
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was false, completely false.
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Revolutions only happen
in science when there is an anomaly
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an anomaly that
the older orthodoxy can�t explain.
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With autism
the anomaly was the explosion in cases
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which meant that what people were trying
to describe as genetic neurologically based condition
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couldn�t be genetic.
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It could only be
environmental,
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it could only be some set of things
that have happened to children.
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and you had to ask the question
�What might it have been?�
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One of my personal training clients
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was a director of programs for LWT,
London Weekend Television.
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And this guy said
�Why don�t you do a program?
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and people out there - there may be
someone out there with this condition.�
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He said �This is going to be
an unbelievable story.�
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We thought we�ve got nothing to lose.
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Right now this child is either going to kill himself
because he�s going to smash his head to pieces
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or we�re going to go insane because
everybody here is miserable.
515
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,392
That program was aired
516
00:32:14,448 --> 00:32:15,690
And
517
00:32:15,725 --> 00:32:19,651
we received 250,000 e-mail hits.
518
00:32:19,927 --> 00:32:23,120
Computers were kind of new then,
the whole Internet, computer thing.
519
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,500
Ours crashed.
We've set up a Billy Tommy website
520
00:32:26,655 --> 00:32:29,631
just in case somebody, one person
might be able to help us. Crashed!
521
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,480
The television station�s computers crashed.
522
00:32:32,620 --> 00:32:36,200
They had never seen anything like this before.
523
00:32:36,660 --> 00:32:40,140
The parents had
exactly the same story as us.
524
00:32:40,460 --> 00:32:41,665
Antibiotics,
525
00:32:41,668 --> 00:32:44,089
e isso era depois da vacina.
526
00:32:44,495 --> 00:32:47,011
BANG!
The symptoms were all the same.
527
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,540
The diarrhea, the constipation,
the high pitch scream,
528
00:32:51,700 --> 00:32:55,040
The banging of the head. We�ve all
lived through it, it�s the same story.
529
00:32:55,260 --> 00:32:58,368
And it was Polly�s idea
to put all of this stuff together
530
00:32:58,599 --> 00:33:01,507
in a magazine called �Autism File�.
531
00:33:01,609 --> 00:33:05,967
Let�s all ask the questions
and maybe someone can help.
532
00:33:05,968 --> 00:33:10,297
These questions from these parents
were not being answered
533
00:33:10,298 --> 00:33:12,827
by the doctors that they went to see.
534
00:33:13,605 --> 00:33:16,300
They came to us out of desperation
535
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,600
and we had 45,000 subscribers
within four months.
536
00:33:24,460 --> 00:33:29,480
When I originally got
the MMR autism data,
537
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,880
I came up with
my own analysis plan
538
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,140
and I stepped through
logically and systemically
539
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,760
how the data
should have been approached.
540
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,620
I looked first of all at
males versus females.
541
00:33:42,740 --> 00:33:45,240
Then I looked at black males
542
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:50,756
the relative risk of them receiving
an autism diagnosis was astronomical.
543
00:33:50,758 --> 00:33:52,898
It was highly
statistically significant.
544
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:58,520
I really had to scratch my head
and say �I know nothing about the MMR vaccine.�
545
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,040
And so that�s when I
originally called Andy.
546
00:34:02,220 --> 00:34:04,960
Wow! Really?
547
00:34:05,780 --> 00:34:09,200
After everything that had happened,
everything we�d all been through,
548
00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:13,180
everything that the families
had suffered for the last fifteen years,
549
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:19,120
and the CDC had known all along
there was this MMR autism risk.
550
00:34:19,580 --> 00:34:24,520
As I started to divulge more the conversations
I think it really hit him
551
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:30,580
that this was a major crack
in the wall of the CDC.
552
00:34:31,620 --> 00:34:34,640
The first thing that Thompson
did was to plot a graph.
553
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,340
A graph of percentage
of children vaccinated
554
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,620
against age of first MMR vaccination.
555
00:34:42,380 --> 00:34:45,460
The children with autism
are represented by the pink line
556
00:34:45,620 --> 00:34:47,980
and the children without autism
by the blue line.
557
00:34:48,180 --> 00:34:51,520
Now, if there�s no link
between early MMR and autism
558
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,799
those two lines should track together
559
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,010
whatever the age of the first MMR.
560
00:34:56,180 --> 00:34:59,760
Now, they do track together
until they get to fifteen months.
561
00:34:59,940 --> 00:35:04,120
Then they separate and they
continue to separate thereafter.
562
00:35:04,700 --> 00:35:09,520
This was the first indication
that MMR vaccine was causing autism.
563
00:35:09,860 --> 00:35:12,820
and that finding alone
rocked Thompson back on his heels.
564
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,000
This was a huge issue for Andy.
565
00:35:16,340 --> 00:35:20,560
So I said to Brian,
�Brian, are you recording these conversations?�
566
00:35:20,940 --> 00:35:24,000
Recording phone conversations
was not really palatable to me.
567
00:35:24,180 --> 00:35:25,940
It almost seemed cruel.
568
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,600
Whistle blowers can disappear
as easily as they came.
569
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,880
They�re like a fish on a hook
570
00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:34,720
and your job is to get them into the boat.
572
00:35:39,980 --> 00:35:41,980
Temple walked at 12 months,
573
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:48,120
so he had been walking for an entire month
before he went in for the next set of the vaccinations.
574
00:35:48,260 --> 00:35:51,288
The minute we walked into the pediatric office,
575
00:35:51,289 --> 00:35:55,333
Lu, his twin, is screaming her head off.
576
00:35:55,740 --> 00:36:00,020
I mean, she knows what�s going on,
she doesn�t want the doctor touching her.
577
00:36:00,140 --> 00:36:02,940
I look up and there
she�s got the shots lined up
578
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,360
three for him, three for her.
579
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,040
By the second shot,
Lucinda had flipped herself over,
580
00:36:09,260 --> 00:36:12,580
so I had to stop looking
at what I was doing,
581
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,120
unstrap her and get her out.
582
00:36:15,220 --> 00:36:18,700
Well, the minute I get her down
and I calm her down a little bit, I look over
583
00:36:19,060 --> 00:36:24,820
he�s screaming. I look at the shots
and I noticed that one of hers was gone.
584
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,640
There are only two shots left for her
585
00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:32,220
and I asked the nurse practitioner,
I said, �What happened to the other shot?�
586
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,880
She says �Oh! Oh, my goodness.
I gave it to him.�
587
00:36:35,980 --> 00:36:37,600
I said �Which one was it?�
588
00:36:37,801 --> 00:36:40,223
She said �It was the other MMR.�
589
00:36:40,225 --> 00:36:41,380
I said �Call the doctor!
590
00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:47,190
This baby is screaming his head off! You've given him an
extra shot I don�t know what the effect of that is going to be.
591
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,338
We�re leaving.� And I left.
592
00:36:48,373 --> 00:36:51,000
so she never got her shots.
593
00:36:51,180 --> 00:36:54,960
I go home. This baby cried, cried, cried.
594
00:36:55,180 --> 00:36:58,200
I put him down on his little blanket.
He starts banging his head on the floor,
595
00:36:58,250 --> 00:37:01,100
banging his head on the floor.
596
00:37:01,140 --> 00:37:04,720
The next morning I go in his room
597
00:37:05,050 --> 00:37:14,320
and he�s staring in the space and he�s looking
around like this, as if he�s a bit paralyzed.
598
00:37:14,620 --> 00:37:18,489
Not the baby who was doing this every morning
599
00:37:18,634 --> 00:37:21,115
and smiling for me to get him out of bed.
600
00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:24,900
And I pick him up and he does this.
601
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,780
I said �What has happened to my baby?�
602
00:37:28,900 --> 00:37:30,900
So I call the clinic
603
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,368
and I said �I think my child has had adverse reaction
604
00:37:34,369 --> 00:37:37,225
to those shots yesterday.�
605
00:37:37,373 --> 00:37:41,980
She said �No, no, no.
I�m waiting for a representative from Merck.
606
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,200
I don�t think it was a reaction to that.�
607
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,160
Bill Thompson looked at African-Americans.
608
00:37:54,260 --> 00:37:58,766
He saw that those African-Americans
that got the MMR on time
609
00:37:58,905 --> 00:38:03,372
were 2.64 times more likely to get an autism diagnosis
610
00:38:03,460 --> 00:38:05,080
than those African-Americans
611
00:38:05,082 --> 00:38:08,010
that received the MMR
after three years of age.
612
00:38:08,575 --> 00:38:14,475
What this was suggesting is that among the blacks,
the ones that were getting vaccinated earlier,
613
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,600
were more likely to have autism.
614
00:38:16,860 --> 00:38:21,680
At that point, the group of researchers
that was working on this particular study
615
00:38:21,780 --> 00:38:23,900
they were having weekly meetings.
616
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:29,900
Coleen Boyle who was the Head
of Developmental Disabilities branch
617
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,440
and Marshalayn Yeargin-Allsop
who was one of Thompson�s direct supervisors,
618
00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:39,380
Frank DeStefano who was the
Head of the Immunization Safety office,
619
00:38:39,580 --> 00:38:43,360
and then a post-doctoral
research associate named Tanya Bhasin.
620
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,205
In that meeting,
Thompson brought up
621
00:38:46,208 --> 00:38:49,611
the fact that African-Americans
were showing
622
00:38:49,749 --> 00:38:53,812
a highly statistically significant risk of autism
623
00:38:53,814 --> 00:38:55,872
if they got the MMR on time.
624
00:38:56,300 --> 00:38:59,981
What is said in these closed door meetings
625
00:39:00,135 --> 00:39:03,120
I mean, do people say
�Oh, well, this is unacceptable�
626
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,900
or do they always say
�Oh, this can�t be right�
627
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,920
or, �I�m not going to lie,
628
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:13,191
but I also don�t want to say
things to you right now
629
00:39:13,817 --> 00:39:18,247
that aren�t some written form.�
630
00:39:18,740 --> 00:39:19,780
Right.
631
00:39:19,940 --> 00:39:24,279
The analysis regarding the African-Americans
632
00:39:24,415 --> 00:39:27,939
was the 8 on the Richter scale earthquake
633
00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:31,080
that just shook through the CDC.
634
00:39:31,620 --> 00:39:35,280
I take him to see the pediatrician that I know
635
00:39:35,820 --> 00:39:39,340
and she looks at me, she closes the door and she whispers.
636
00:39:39,460 --> 00:39:42,280
She says,
�Sheila, I believe he has autism.�
637
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,740
I said �What? Like Rain Man?�
638
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,620
She says �Something like that.
I�m going to refer you out to neurologist.�
639
00:39:49,900 --> 00:39:52,760
We go see the neurologist the next week.
640
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,760
He says �He has every
classical symptom of autism.�
641
00:39:58,020 --> 00:40:00,300
I do not believe this. I was angry.
642
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,620
What he was explaining to me,
what kind of autism is,
643
00:40:03,820 --> 00:40:06,540
he told me he was born that way.
I said �No, he wasn�t.�
644
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,900
Clearly, there was a very high risk
of autism in African-American children.
645
00:40:11,100 --> 00:40:15,200
And here�s the thing: we know that autism
is four times more common in boys,
646
00:40:15,420 --> 00:40:20,380
so to see that effect mirrored in the African-American
children was a compelling finding.
647
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,377
When I looked at African-American males only
648
00:40:24,546 --> 00:40:27,260
the relative risk was 3.36.
649
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:32,700
It just blew my mind! And that�s when
I wanted to call Bill Thompson on the phone,
650
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,100
and his statement to me
was �Oh, you found it?�
651
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:42,080
It appears in the final publication is
that race in general is downplayed.
652
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,760
Of course it is downplayed.
653
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:01,740
Temple�s twin is amazing.
She is fluent in three languages.
654
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,520
She speaks French like a native.
655
00:41:05,180 --> 00:41:07,180
She is an A student.
656
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,980
She plays classical piano.
657
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,720
With all of the guilt
that I feel from that day,
658
00:41:15,180 --> 00:41:19,780
one of the best decisions
I made for her was to walk out of that office
659
00:41:19,860 --> 00:41:21,740
without her being vaccinated.
660
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:27,360
At the end of this journey, I don�t� want
to be one of those mothers standing there saying
661
00:41:27,460 --> 00:41:29,440
what I wish I would�ve, could�ve, should�ve done.
662
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,640
I want to be able to say
663
00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:33,700
I gave it everything that I had.
664
00:41:34,460 --> 00:41:36,460
I gave it my best shot.
665
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,681
His twin is going to eleventh grade.
666
00:41:39,683 --> 00:41:44,650
And for someone who still can�t manage to cross the street
667
00:41:44,860 --> 00:41:47,760
now, am I grateful he�s here?
You bet!
668
00:41:48,180 --> 00:41:50,680
I�m grateful my son lived,
669
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,620
but I was so naive that
670
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,820
he would live a fulfilling life,
671
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,360
he would end up being a happy man
672
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,000
having a family...
673
00:42:04,820 --> 00:42:06,820
My dreams for him...
674
00:42:09,814 --> 00:42:14,821
And every year that goes by,
the older my son gets
675
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:20,380
the further that dream seems to be.
676
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,665
All about vaccines!
677
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,680
So what do vaccines do?
678
00:42:26,700 --> 00:42:28,420
Vaccines build up your immune system
679
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,380
and make you stronger
to fight off disease.
680
00:42:30,500 --> 00:42:32,040
Are vaccines safe?
681
00:42:32,180 --> 00:42:35,800
Yes. The studies involving millions of children
have shown no connection
682
00:42:35,860 --> 00:42:37,820
between vaccines and autism.
683
00:42:37,860 --> 00:42:39,860
Stick to the schedule!
684
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:45,960
The CDC�s own vaccine schedule which
we are required to adhere to as parents in America
685
00:42:46,060 --> 00:42:50,400
recommends that our children
get the MMR between 12 and 18 months.
686
00:42:50,620 --> 00:42:54,680
But in this hidden data
provided to us by William Thompson
687
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,580
it is clear that for African-Americans
688
00:42:57,740 --> 00:43:00,728
this is actually the most dangerous
time to deliver the MMR.
689
00:43:01,540 --> 00:43:05,148
The CDC in my opinion�it�s where I go to
690
00:43:05,459 --> 00:43:07,769
if I need information about an infectious disease.
691
00:43:07,820 --> 00:43:13,020
I probably either go on their website or open one
of their reference books every day.
692
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,220
That building is filled by a lot of scientists
that are smarter than me.
00:43:28,340 --> 00:43:31,920
The analysis plan is one of the most important
parts of a scientific study.
696
00:43:32,484 --> 00:43:38,380
It�s the laws or the rules by which a scientist
will adhere to while doing the study.
697
00:43:38,460 --> 00:43:42,400
And this analysis plan is put together
by the scientists themselves.
698
00:43:42,435 --> 00:43:44,400
Sometimes their superiors weigh in,
699
00:43:44,700 --> 00:43:47,720
but once they�ve locked that analysis plan
700
00:43:47,860 --> 00:43:50,540
they say �This is how we�re going to use the data.�
701
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,920
And you can�t deviate from that analysis plan
702
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,380
or you risk a fraud, scientific fraud.
703
00:43:57,740 --> 00:44:02,380
Did they deviate from the analysis plan
after seeing something that they didn�t like?
704
00:44:02,420 --> 00:44:04,120
If they did,
705
00:44:04,300 --> 00:44:06,300
we have a real problem.
706
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:12,000
Thompson not only played a major role
in developing the analysis plan
707
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,560
he was the numbers guy.
708
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,600
He was responsible for collecting the data,
709
00:44:16,740 --> 00:44:19,360
analyzing the data
and presenting the results.
710
00:44:19,660 --> 00:44:21,660
And by November 2001
711
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,120
the results were in.
712
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:29,220
Now, with the MMR autism one,
we had an analysis plan
713
00:44:29,380 --> 00:44:32,580
that we were supposed to
execute and was written.
714
00:44:35,140 --> 00:44:40,980
Yeah, I�m going to be sharing
these draft analysis that we have
715
00:44:41,180 --> 00:44:43,340
and you can see whether we did
what we said we�re going to do.
716
00:44:43,580 --> 00:44:48,000
That analysis plan had been
agreed upon not only by the co-authors
717
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,120
but also the CDC superiors.
718
00:44:50,220 --> 00:44:52,220
In order to conceal the effect of the MMR,
719
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,660
what they had to do was to reduce
the number of children in the study
720
00:44:56,218 --> 00:45:01,903
in order to reduce what is referred to as
the statistical power, that is
721
00:45:02,180 --> 00:45:06,960
the ability of the study to detect
the difference if one genuinely exists.
722
00:45:06,980 --> 00:45:14,880
In the analysis plan they had agreed
to use two sources of information.
725
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,133
The first was the children�s school records
726
00:45:17,305 --> 00:45:20,000
and the second was the children�s
Georgia birth certificate record.
727
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,820
So while every child in the study
had a school record,
728
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,534
only half of the children in the study
had a Georgia birth certificate record
729
00:45:26,535 --> 00:45:28,804
because the other half
had been born in other states.
730
00:45:29,145 --> 00:45:31,320
So the analysis plan was explicit.
731
00:45:31,380 --> 00:45:35,577
Information on the child�s race
was to come from their school record.
732
00:45:35,789 --> 00:45:37,321
but when confronted with the data
734
00:45:43,176 --> 00:45:46,400
that revealed an increased risk
on autism in African-American children
735
00:45:46,580 --> 00:45:49,240
they deviated from their analysis plan.
736
00:45:49,340 --> 00:45:52,444
They chose to get the race data
not from the school record
737
00:45:52,446 --> 00:45:54,600
but from the Georgia birth certificate record.
738
00:45:54,761 --> 00:45:57,048
Instead of having 3,000 individuals in the study,
740
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:08,092
it went down to about 1,800.
742
00:46:08,127 --> 00:46:13,040
The relative risk
went down from 2.64 to 1.8,
743
00:46:13,180 --> 00:46:16,196
but more importantly, that relative risk
744
00:46:16,197 --> 00:46:18,583
was no longer statistically significant.
745
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,080
I now ask you to step forward to receive
your prize from the hands of His Majesty the King.
746
00:46:28,700 --> 00:46:31,220
I am Luc Montagnier M.D.
762
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,540
Shortly after Julie Gerberding
became head of the CDC
763
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:41,320
I began to communicate with her
and asked her to come to my office.
764
00:47:41,380 --> 00:47:45,340
There didn�t seem to be
objective research going on.
765
00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:51,680
There was CDC
trying to promote vaccination for children,
766
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,380
and then they were doing
the safety research themselves.
767
00:47:55,520 --> 00:48:01,100
In CDC�s judgment, the best public policy
is to continue vaccination unchanged
768
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:06,360
while aggressively working to try to identify
causes of developmental disabilities.
769
00:48:06,660 --> 00:48:10,840
CDC, I just thought,
was institutionally conflicted.
770
00:48:11,020 --> 00:48:15,103
The CDC can�t take money directly
from pharma but they can set up a foundation
771
00:48:15,246 --> 00:48:19,520
and the foundation can attract donations
from commercial interests and does.
772
00:48:19,780 --> 00:48:22,584
Merck, GlaxoSmithKline, Pfizer,
773
00:48:22,746 --> 00:48:27,182
Sanofi Aventis have huge multibillion dollar vaccine
businesses.
774
00:48:27,619 --> 00:48:29,360
They are profitable, they�ve grown
775
00:48:29,620 --> 00:48:34,740
because some of these new high-tech vaccines
that are patented, that are high-priced,
776
00:48:34,980 --> 00:48:37,375
yet protected by this little cocoon
777
00:48:37,519 --> 00:48:40,736
of regulatory capture at NHSS,
778
00:48:40,820 --> 00:48:44,520
and are guaranteed multibillion dollar franchises.
779
00:48:44,780 --> 00:48:48,000
When I was working at Merck,
I was a sales rep for Vioxx.
780
00:48:48,020 --> 00:48:52,880
The whole scandal started
when it was discovered that Merck had manipulated data
781
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,473
and covered up the fact that Vioxx actually
782
00:48:55,628 --> 00:48:59,501
caused twice the amount of heart attacks
and strokes than the placebo.
783
00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:01,408
What I learned from that experience was
784
00:49:01,548 --> 00:49:06,501
just because things are on the market, does not mean they are safe.
785
00:49:08,460 --> 00:49:12,100
I think we get into a very dangerous
territory with vaccinations.
786
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,620
If a drug company gets
just one vaccine added to the schedule
787
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,980
they can make upwards
to 30 billion dollars in one year.
788
00:49:19,220 --> 00:49:24,780
It�s no secret. I think they published their attention
789
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,621
which is they want to create
an environment of constant vaccination
790
00:49:26,750 --> 00:49:28,623
from cradle to grave.
791
00:49:28,625 --> 00:49:31,740
They want infant vaccines expanded: flu shots,
792
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:36,049
DTaP boosters, Gardasil shots, meningococcal shots.
793
00:49:36,211 --> 00:49:38,020
They want adult vaccines
794
00:49:38,140 --> 00:49:42,880
you know, they want you and me to come in
and get a constant barrage of shots
795
00:49:42,980 --> 00:49:45,360
and then they want vaccines for the elderly.
796
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,680
We have a highly profitable product
797
00:49:47,700 --> 00:49:52,240
because the safety testing
isn�t as rigorous as a normal pharmaceutical drug.
798
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:56,760
The gold standard is
double-blind, placebo-based, long-term study.
799
00:49:56,940 --> 00:50:00,920
And that just isn�t done with vaccines
800
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:02,778
because they�re
classified in a different way
801
00:50:02,923 --> 00:50:04,730
as a public health measure,
802
00:50:04,765 --> 00:50:08,060
and they haven�t been tested
in combination with other vaccines.
803
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,360
Yet, doctors give six to nine doses per visit.
804
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,060
It�s insane!
805
00:50:13,180 --> 00:50:16,160
If pharmaceutical drug was tested like this it
806
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:17,800
wouldn�t be on the market.
807
00:50:17,900 --> 00:50:21,880
but because it�s a vaccine
and the safety testing is less vigorous,
808
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,920
our children are being experimented on.
809
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,240
I don�t like to look at
autism from behavioral perspective.
810
00:50:28,300 --> 00:50:31,800
I look at it more
from what causes it in each child.
811
00:50:31,820 --> 00:50:35,260
When I want to define autism
I have to say that
812
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:40,097
it�s the inability to detoxify
the way you�re supposed to or at the rates that you�re supposed to.
813
00:50:40,237 --> 00:50:42,415
It all has to do with this toxic overload.
814
00:50:42,740 --> 00:50:46,480
These children are not detoxifying from the vaccinations
815
00:50:46,700 --> 00:50:48,568
Same thing with GMO products,
816
00:50:48,651 --> 00:50:50,968
the pesticides in our food.
817
00:50:51,100 --> 00:50:55,100
If I can prevent the child
from being exposed to more toxins,
818
00:50:55,340 --> 00:51:01,320
then when I�m teaching the child
at least the child is getting better and not continuously getting worse.
819
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,980
Without the doubt,
what has happened to Billy has changed his life.
820
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,060
You got a strike!
821
00:51:11,660 --> 00:51:16,880
What I have in my hands now
is a 19-year-old man. He�s 6 foot 2,
823
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,200
he�s volatile.
824
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,280
On good days,
Billy is brilliant, he�s an angel.
825
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,640
On bad days the slightest thing can trigger him and he's scary
826
00:51:27,860 --> 00:51:30,960
I�m going to go downstairs
and get daddy right now.
827
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,700
You need to stay up here. Okay?
828
00:51:32,820 --> 00:51:34,500
I�m going to kill daddy right now!
829
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,820
Bill, listen to me. I�m going to stay with you
up here and you�re going to try and come down, okay?
830
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,200
The reason they become
aggressive and dangerous in some cases
831
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,160
is because they have no ability to communicate.
832
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,229
Because mommy asked Kent
834
00:51:54,809 --> 00:51:55,316
but...
835
00:51:55,316 --> 00:51:57,084
Kent bringing the sweet corn
836
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,100
and then bringing in the chickens here.
837
00:52:00,300 --> 00:52:01,730
This is your fault, mommy.
839
00:52:09,521 --> 00:52:11,980
If you were not able to express your needs,
840
00:52:12,128 --> 00:52:17,160
your wants, your desires, your happiness and
sadness and so on, you would become aggressive.
841
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,900
That�s often when we
see the worst part of autism.
843
00:52:33,060 --> 00:52:36,000
We had to occupy his room and use his video player.
844
00:52:36,340 --> 00:52:39,380
And, of course, that is a massive intrusion in his space
845
00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:41,720
and he�s�he got very upset.
846
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,880
Where else in this house can we play the video?
847
00:52:44,940 --> 00:52:46,680
Remember? Listen, Bill.
848
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,000
Use the stress level, Billy.Stress level down!
849
00:52:49,660 --> 00:52:51,380
Bill, don�t fight daddy.
850
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:57,140
Out there there�s millions of me, there�s millions of
Polly Tommys with vaccine-damaged children.
851
00:52:57,300 --> 00:53:02,300
I am telling you this because
I do not want you to live the life that I�ve led.
852
00:53:02,460 --> 00:53:05,260
I do not want you to go through
the pain, I do not want to see you suffer
853
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,360
or your family suffer.
That is why I�m telling you.
854
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,340
N�o h� outra raz�o pela qual eu
deveria ter essa conversa.
855
00:53:10,420 --> 00:53:12,420
I have no other reason to tell you about it.
It�s not my concern � my kid�s already damaged.
856
00:53:21,140 --> 00:53:24,220
I am a senior research scientist here at MIT
857
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,400
in the computer science and artificial intelligence laboratory.
858
00:53:26,700 --> 00:53:29,520
I have a bachelor�s degree in biology from MIT
859
00:53:29,660 --> 00:53:32,060
and I have MSEE and PhD degrees, also from MIT,
860
00:53:32,540 --> 00:53:35,800
in electrical engineering and computer science.
861
00:53:36,780 --> 00:53:39,980
I became interested in autism
a long time ago when my best friend at the time
862
00:53:40,100 --> 00:53:45,680
had a son
who was diagnosed with autism following a DPT shot.
863
00:53:45,740 --> 00:53:48,233
He had a high fever
after the shot, seizures a week later
864
00:53:48,235 --> 00:53:51,260
and then was later diagnosed with autism.
865
00:53:51,420 --> 00:53:54,220
We have to accept the fact that autism is new,
866
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,640
that before 1930 the rate of autism
in the world was effectively zero
867
00:53:59,420 --> 00:54:02,220
and then for a long time was 1 in 10,000.
868
00:54:02,380 --> 00:54:05,320
I got interested in studying autism eight years ago
869
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,240
when I saw
the numbers go up and I was quite alarmed
870
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,400
because I could see
that the trend was exponential growth,
871
00:54:10,820 --> 00:54:13,260
and exponential growth is extremely scary.
872
00:54:13,740 --> 00:54:16,940
Since really the mid to late 80s
we�ve gone from this low prevalence environment
873
00:54:17,060 --> 00:54:20,074
to a rate of increase where the trend is still vertical.
874
00:54:20,630 --> 00:54:26,169
We have not seen the flattening in trend.
5,840 --> 00:54:31,080
Every couple of years the CDC provides a number
of what percentage of kids are diagnosed with autism,
876
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:35,620
and you�ve got the dots
going all the way back to 1975. If you draw the line
877
00:54:35,820 --> 00:54:38,180
it is a perfect exponential curve.
878
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,880
If we assume that things are going to continue
879
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,302
as they have for the past 30 years into the future,
880
00:54:43,488 --> 00:54:47,740
we can predict that by 2032,
881
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:52,040
80 percent of the boys born will end up on the autism spectrum
882
00:54:52,420 --> 00:54:54,840
half the children; 80 percent of the boys.
885
00:55:44,851 --> 00:55:47,990
If you think the vaccine is only a problem for African-American kids
886
00:55:48,094 --> 00:55:49,560
like me, you�re wrong.
887
00:55:49,740 --> 00:55:51,740
There is an even bigger problem,
888
00:55:51,913 --> 00:55:56,060
one that puts all kids at risk,
and it�s called isolated autism...
890
00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:06,980
When the CDC researchers
set out to do the study
891
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:11,560
they asked themselves the question,
�If early MMR vaccine causes autism,
892
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:16,020
in which children would we
be most likely to find this effect?�
893
00:56:16,540 --> 00:56:17,498
Their answer is children
894
00:56:17,644 --> 00:56:22,565
with no developmental
concerns for the first year of life,
895
00:56:22,568 --> 00:56:27,320
children who were perfectly healthy
until they received the MMR vaccine.
896
00:56:28,940 --> 00:56:31,680
They called this group �isolated autism�.
897
00:56:31,713 --> 00:56:36,018
Now, this does not refer to an isolated case of autism
898
00:56:36,019 --> 00:56:38,680
or an isolated group with autism.
899
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:44,628
They isolated autism out,
so children who had no comorbid conditions
900
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,361
apart from that autism.
901
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,540
No cerebral palsy,
902
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:54,080
no mental retardation,
no visual or hearing impairment,
903
00:56:54,240 --> 00:56:57,340
no epilepsy and no birth defects.
904
00:56:58,420 --> 00:57:03,640
This risk group includes essentially
every healthy child in the world.
905
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:10,140
I�m a single father
raising a 15-year-old,
906
00:57:10,460 --> 00:57:12,133
severely autistic,
907
00:57:12,457 --> 00:57:15,486
non-verbal, teenage daughter.
908
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,920
When she was 15 months old
she received her round of vaccines
909
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,340
that included the MMR and the DTaP.
910
00:57:21,660 --> 00:57:25,820
She developed a high fever.
When the fever broke, she lost everything.
911
00:57:26,060 --> 00:57:29,880
My daughter was six weeks old
when I took her in for her vaccination.
912
00:57:30,020 --> 00:57:32,728
Two hours later
she had a five-minute seizure
913
00:57:32,935 --> 00:57:35,676
and two hours after that
she had another five-minute seizure.
914
00:57:36.11 --> 00:57:40.25
Mommy�s here. Come on. Come on.
You�re okay. You�re okay.
00:57:40.26 --> 00:57:45.23
Come on, baby. Come on, babe. You can do it. Come on, baby. Come on, now.
00:57:45.24 --> 00:57:48.20
Come on now. Come on, baby. Come on!
00:57:48.19 --> 00:57:50.21
Keep breathing. Come on, come on, come on.
915
00:57:50,260 --> 00:57:52,900
The vaccination gave her
severe brain damage
916
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,300
and she had seizures every day for the rest of her life
917
00:57:55,420 --> 00:57:57,700
until she died in my arms at the age of 15.
918
00:57:57,860 --> 00:58:00,880
There is no good reason
to choose not to get a vaccine!
919
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,720
He got his MMR
and he got his DTP,
920
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,560
and within days he stopped talking.
921
00:58:06,660 --> 00:58:08,660
Projectile vomiting, convulsions.
922
00:58:08,684 --> 00:58:10,399
He went blind in his left eye.
923
00:58:10,500 --> 00:58:13,640
Vaccines took our healthy, happy baby
924
00:58:13,740 --> 00:58:15,740
and made him unwell.
925
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,720
She lost all acquired speech.
926
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:22,060
He lost his speech, he lost his eye contact,
like the flick of the switch.
927
00:58:22,220 --> 00:58:26,300
If vaccines were unsafe I think this
would be an interesting and reasonable discussion.
928
00:58:26,420 --> 00:58:29,480
Obviously some minority
get hurt by this stuff.
929
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,640
I don�t understand why this is controversial.
930
00:58:31,860 --> 00:58:34,680
Vaccines are safe. Get vaccinated.
931
00:58:34,780 --> 00:58:37,600
It�s like �You know what?
Shut the fuck up and
932
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,600
let me take every vaccine
that Merck wants to shove down my throat.�
933
00:58:40,660 --> 00:58:43,420
Autism is not a side effect of vaccine,
934
00:58:43,580 --> 00:58:47,020
or to say it in another way,
because some people don�t want to hear this well,
935
00:58:47,220 --> 00:58:49,420
vaccines do not cause autism.
936
00:58:49.230 --> 00:58:50.119
Hear this well.
00:58:50.120 --> 00:58:51.250
Hear this well.
937
00:58:51.260 --> 00:58:53,319
Please, hear this well.
Hear this well.
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,100
Vaccines can and do cause autism.
939
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:56,990
My grandson�
940
00:58:57,153 --> 00:58:58,200
Daughter Lily�
My daughter�
941
00:58:58,300 --> 00:59:00,160
My son was fully vaccinated�
942
00:59:00,220 --> 00:59:01,200
My son Jackson�
943
00:59:01,300 --> 00:59:03,950
I had a healthy typically developing boy�
944
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:05,000
Please hear this well�
945
00:59:05,100 --> 00:59:07,300
Vaccines cause autism!
946
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,660
One day
everyone will know the truth about vaccines.
947
00:59:11,380 --> 00:59:13,380
Hear this well!
948
00:59:18,180 --> 00:59:22,820
I actually think the most interesting results
of the elevated ones, or the isolated,
949
00:59:23,020 --> 00:59:26,060
ones that don�t have
the other comorbid questions.
950
00:59:26,140 --> 00:59:29,260
The effect is where
you would think it would happen.
951
00:59:29,420 --> 00:59:33,880
In isolated autism,
he saw a very, very strong effect
952
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,100
specific to those kids
that got the MMR on time.
953
00:59:37,380 --> 00:59:40,640
When Bill Thompson ran those numbers
954
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,760
he saw an astronomical effect.
955
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,740
Some of the numbers
were actually the relative risks,
956
00:59:46,100 --> 00:59:51,540
were as high as 7 or 8 times
higher with these kids
957
00:59:51,820 --> 00:59:55,340
that were diagnosed
with just isolated autism,
958
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,800
no other diagnosis, versus those controls.
959
00:59:58,824 --> 01:00:03,340
Isolated autism is confusing
because it sounds small
960
01:00:03,375 --> 01:00:05,363
but it really is a big problem
961
01:00:05,563 --> 01:00:10,076
because all healthy children,
no matter what race, are at risk.
962
01:00:10,276 --> 01:00:13,530
For example,
my sister�s 18 months old
963
01:00:13,534 --> 01:00:16,913
and she�s
supposed to get an MMR shot right now.
964
01:00:17,134 --> 01:00:21,295
But if she does,
she�s 7 times more likely to get autism
965
01:00:21,297 --> 01:00:25,690
than if my parents
wait until after 3 years old.
966
01:00:25,725 --> 01:00:28,526
So I hope my parents will do it.
01:00:29,294 --> 01:00:31,122
Here�s what�s really scary.
968
01:00:31,322 --> 01:00:33,572
When we look at isolated autism
969
01:00:33,574 --> 01:00:38,096
we see that there�s an up to seven-fold
increase in the incidents of autism
970
01:00:38,097 --> 01:00:41,945
between those that received the vaccine
between 12 and 18 months
971
01:00:41,947 --> 01:00:44,518
versus those that got it after 3 years old.
972
01:00:44,603 --> 01:00:46,195
But let�s be perfectly clear,
973
01:00:46,230 --> 01:00:50,284
every child in this study had received the MMR vaccine.
974
01:00:50,697 --> 01:00:53,556
What would the numbers be if you compared
975
01:00:53,558 --> 01:00:56,524
children who got the vaccine between 12 and 18 months
977
01:01:04,823 --> 01:01:07,346
versus children that never got the vaccine at all?
978
01:01:07,652 --> 01:01:11,891
This is often referred to as the vax vs unvax study,
979
01:01:12,091 --> 01:01:17,570
and the CDC refuses to do this study,
980
01:01:17,770 --> 01:01:22,340
even though every drug that we take
has been through this exact study.
981
01:01:22,375 --> 01:01:26,910
There�s a group who take the drug and then they
compare it with the group who do not take the drug,
982
01:01:27,110 --> 01:01:31,151
and they see are there more side effects and complications
with the group that takes the drug.
983
01:01:31,351 --> 01:01:36,021
So why does the CDC refuse to do the vax vs unvax study?
984
01:01:36,056 --> 01:01:40,071
Probably because when we look at the results of this study,
985
01:01:40,106 --> 01:01:46,200
we realize that the risk would be astronomical
987
01:01:46,652 --> 01:01:53,783
and it�s likely to be one of the major reasons
we�re seeing the skyrocketing increase of autism worldwide.
990
01:01:57,380 --> 01:02:00,534
Just like the African-American children,
991
01:02:00,558 --> 01:02:02,333
they went into the room
992
01:02:02,334 --> 01:02:07,078
and they sliced and diced the data
in an effort to get rid of that effect.
993
01:02:07,113 --> 01:02:09,232
This is Coleen Boyle�s meeting notes,
994
01:02:09,832 --> 01:02:12,946
how they planned to present the data by these age groups,
995
01:02:12,981 --> 01:02:15,276
but after the fact when the data are in
996
01:02:15,278 --> 01:02:16,845
she writes �reformat�
997
01:02:17,091 --> 01:02:20,911
and then she puts in new age groups.
998
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,013
Even this failed to achieve the desired effect since
999
01:02:26,048 --> 01:02:29,854
in the end they simply omitted the relevant
findings from the paper altogether.
1000
01:02:29,969 --> 01:02:33,270
I was just looking at it and I�m like �Oh, my God!
1001
01:02:33,270 --> 01:02:36,390
I cannot believe we did what we did.
1002
01:02:36,971 --> 01:02:38,794
But we did.
1003
01:02:38,994 --> 01:02:41,918
- Yeah.
-So it�s all there.
1004
01:02:42,186 --> 01:02:43,483
And you in the health field,
1005
01:02:43,614 --> 01:02:47,525
you who run our health agencies in this country
who are sitting here today,
1006
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:52,673
you have an obligation to these kids that you just saw there
1007
01:02:52,873 --> 01:02:56,098
to make sure that these studies are complete, thorough,
1008
01:02:56,133 --> 01:03:01,293
so that everybody knows that we have all the facts.
And you don�t have that.
1009
01:03:01,493 --> 01:03:05,593
One of the things we did because this was such an important topic
1010
01:03:05,628 --> 01:03:07,564
was to have them be sworn in
1011
01:03:07,714 --> 01:03:13,686
so they were under oath.
And if they were doctoring the results of a study
1012
01:03:13,932 --> 01:03:16,532
and they did it deliberately, they committed a felony.
1013
01:03:16,732 --> 01:03:19,088
It used to be 1 in 10,000
1014
01:03:19,785 --> 01:03:26,281
and now it�s 1 in more than 250 kids that are being
damaged in this country, that are autistic.
1015
01:03:27,947 --> 01:03:31,586
Now, those kids are going to grow up.
They aren�t going to die.
1016
01:03:31,786 --> 01:03:36,165
It�s not like a lot of diseases where they get
infected and they drop dead.
1017
01:03:36,365 --> 01:03:40,843
They�re going to live to be 50, 60 years old.
Now, who do you think is going to take care of them?
1018
01:03:42,456 --> 01:03:45,701
It�s going to be us, all of us, the taxpayers.
1019
01:03:45,901 --> 01:03:50,594
And it�s going to cost, I think as you said, Miss Mooney,
trillions of dollars!
1020
01:03:51,738 --> 01:03:55,344
So we can�t let the pharmaceutical companies
and our government
1021
01:03:55,379 --> 01:04:00,560
cover this mess up today because it ain�t going to go away.
1022
01:04:00,595 --> 01:04:05,852
And it�s going to cost the taxpayers trillions more
if we wait around on it.
1023
01:04:05,887 --> 01:04:08,667
And for our FDA and our HHS and the health agencies
1024
01:04:08,690 --> 01:04:12,134
to continue to hide behind this facade
1025
01:04:12,284 --> 01:04:14,879
that there have been studies that conclusively prove otherwise
1026
01:04:15,188 --> 01:04:17,032
is just wrong too.
1027
01:04:17,067 --> 01:04:22,228
So the CDC wasn�t just doing this study inside of the bubble.
In fact, it was the exact opposite.
1028
01:04:22,428 --> 01:04:23,658
They were under fire.
1029
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:28,771
You had Congressman Dan Burton in front of the Congress
demanding answers about mercury
1030
01:04:28,909 --> 01:04:32,950
and the MMR and vaccine studies and the connection to autism.
1031
01:04:33,090 --> 01:04:35,345
Dave Weldon, congressman from Florida
1032
01:04:35,425 --> 01:04:40,767
is reaching out to Julie Gerberding with serious complaints
on how he thinks this entire issue is being handled.
1033
01:04:40,903 --> 01:04:46,028
On top of that, the Department of Justice
is requesting files and data from the CDC
1034
01:04:46,063 --> 01:04:50,916
because of a previous study called the Verstraeten
study that had so many anomalies
1035
01:04:50,951 --> 01:04:54,835
it looked like scientific fraud was taking place,
so they were suspicious.
1036
01:04:54,870 --> 01:04:58,606
So then you look at the e-mails that
Thompson�s provided to us
1037
01:04:58,806 --> 01:05:03,515
and you can see that he�s reaching out to his
line manager, Dr. Melinda Wharton,
1038
01:05:03,661 --> 01:05:05,936
throwing up red flags saying:
1039
01:05:05,971 --> 01:05:08,714
�I first spoke with you in September of 2002 regarding
1040
01:05:08,750 --> 01:05:10,292
the sensitive results
1041
01:05:10,294 --> 01:05:14,450
we have been struggling with in the MMR/autism study.�
1042
01:05:14,452 --> 01:05:17,223
How do you struggle with scientific results?
1043
01:05:17,937 --> 01:05:23,711
I mean, facts are facts; data are data.
That doesn�t make any sense.
1044
01:05:23,911 --> 01:05:28,477
So you�ve got Dan Burton breathing down their necks,
the Department of Justice is requesting files,
1045
01:05:28,512 --> 01:05:34,202
and William Thompson finds out that Coleen Boyle
has brought in a lawyer
1046
01:05:34,237 --> 01:05:37,863
to help her decide what materials are too sensitive
1047
01:05:38,074 --> 01:05:40,168
to provide to the Department of Justice.
1048
01:05:40,424 --> 01:05:42,783
This obviously freaks William Thompson out
1049
01:05:42,941 --> 01:05:46,453
because later in the e-mail to Wharton he says:
1050
01:05:46,586 --> 01:05:49,109
�I will be hiring my own personal attorney
1051
01:05:49,144 --> 01:05:52,497
and it�s extremely unfortunate that we need
to be concerned about whether
1052
01:05:52,654 --> 01:05:57,621
our own legal rights are covered when
participating in a study such as this.�
1053
01:05:57,692 --> 01:05:59,485
What�s going on here?
1054
01:05:59,937 --> 01:06:03,651
We have government scientists lawyering up
1055
01:06:03,784 --> 01:06:06,553
over a children�s safety study.
1056
01:06:06,756 --> 01:06:12,133
Clearly this does not sit well at all with
Dr. Thompson because at the end of this e-mail
1057
01:06:12,141 --> 01:06:14,996
he makes what it looks to be to me a clear threat:
1058
01:06:15,172 --> 01:06:19,086
�My level of concern has also
caused me to seriously consider
1059
01:06:19,121 --> 01:06:22,953
removing myself as an author
on the draft manuscript.�
1060
01:06:22,988 --> 01:06:26,972
So then a few days later Thompson writes
directly to Dr. Walter Orenstein,
1061
01:06:27,147 --> 01:06:30,266
head of the National Immunization Program saying:
1062
01:06:30,537 --> 01:06:33,377
�I am not interested in taking
1063
01:06:33,379 --> 01:06:37,081
of the political heat that will go
along with that study.�
1064
01:06:37,394 --> 01:06:42,109
Thompson has gone all the way
to the top of his department.
1065
01:06:42,144 --> 01:06:46,543
I mean, we don�t ever get a response
from Walter Orenstein,
1066
01:06:46,578 --> 01:06:50,744
but Thompson is very clear
on what happened next.
1068
01:06:54,576 --> 01:06:59,081
The higher-ups wanted to do certain
things and I went along with it.
1069
01:06:59,116 --> 01:07:02,738
In terms of chain of command,
I was number four out of five.
1070
01:07:02,773 --> 01:07:06,325
Dr. Thompson talked about
destruction of documents
1071
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,858
and that in fall of 2002
1072
01:07:09,029 --> 01:07:14,117
there was a meeting, with the trash can rolled in
and they selected documents to be destroyed.
1073
01:07:14,225 --> 01:07:17,406
I led all the analysis
with the DeStefano thing.
1074
01:07:17,441 --> 01:07:20,687
Literally everyone else got rid
of all their documents
1075
01:07:20,788 --> 01:07:23,975
so the only documents that
exist right now from that study are mine.
1076
01:07:24,459 --> 01:07:26,774
These documents were not our federal records.
1077
01:07:26,809 --> 01:07:31,772
They were very important documents because they
showed a very strong statistically significant effect.
1078
01:07:31,807 --> 01:07:35,223
He felt that quite rightly it would be
illegal to destroy those documents
1079
01:07:35,672 --> 01:07:41,672
and so in his office he kept, along with his
hard copies, the computerized files for that study.
1080
01:07:42,090 --> 01:07:46,627
There was a dramatically
different result presented
1081
01:07:46,757 --> 01:07:52,757
before and after the timeframe that Thompson
alleged that these data were destroyed.
1082
01:07:53,225 --> 01:07:59,225
If I never had the documents before
October 2002, there would be nothing
1083
01:07:59,434 --> 01:08:05,355
that would show that they actually had the results in hand
and they decided to destroy those results
1084
01:08:05,390 --> 01:08:10,203
I filed a formal complaint to the
Office of Research Integrity
1085
01:08:10,238 --> 01:08:12,440
and the Department of
Health and Human Services
1086
01:08:12,649 --> 01:08:15,581
I heard back not long after
the complaint was filed
1087
01:08:15,616 --> 01:08:21,616
and the letter basically stated that every
co-author except for Dr. Thompson
1088
01:08:21,786 --> 01:08:24,785
denied that any such
meeting was scheduled.
1089
01:08:24,688 --> 01:08:28,822
They denied that any material was destroyed or thrown away.
1090
01:08:29,100 --> 01:08:33,150
They were calling Dr. Thompson a liar.
It was their word against his.
1091
01:08:33,214 --> 01:08:36,806
Dr. Thompson predicted
that this would happen.
1092
01:08:37,006 --> 01:08:42,786
There are things I haven�t even shared
with you because I can�t prove it
1093
01:08:42,986 --> 01:08:48,200
and that�s what I struggle with. I don�t want
to share things with you that I can�t prove,
1094
01:08:48,235 --> 01:08:50,476
that they aren�t hard records,
1095
01:08:51,020 --> 01:08:51,829
because
1096
01:08:52,146 --> 01:08:57,644
I am worried that the other four people
will collude and say, �No, that�s not true.�
1097
01:08:58,061 --> 01:09:01,146
Dr. Thompson provided
meeting notes to me for
1098
01:09:01,340 --> 01:09:06,931
precisely the time where the co-authors
are claiming that no meeting took place.
1099
01:09:07,056 --> 01:09:08,616
That�s what I keep seeing again
1100
01:09:08,956 --> 01:09:10,917
and again and again
1101
01:09:10,952 --> 01:09:13,020
where these senior
people just do
1102
01:09:13,817 --> 01:09:18,415
completely unethical, vile things and
no one holds them accountable.
1103
01:09:18,417 --> 01:09:20,497
Look, once you have the data,
1104
01:09:20,657 --> 01:09:24,306
a scientific study like this is a
relatively simple process.
1105
01:09:24,335 --> 01:09:29,180
You just run the data, you get the results, and
then you publish those results in the paper.
1106
01:09:29,215 --> 01:09:33,526
In their own analysis plan this study
was only supposed to take six months,
1107
01:09:33,561 --> 01:09:37,277
from May 2001 to December 2001.
1108
01:09:37,312 --> 01:09:39,671
So if they weren�t destroying data
1109
01:09:39,958 --> 01:09:43,779
why did this study end up
taking four years?
1110
01:09:43,936 --> 01:09:47,638
The question everybody needs
to be asking the CDC is:
1111
01:09:48,115 --> 01:09:54,115
'What the heck happened between
October 2002 and February of 2004.'
1112
01:09:55,380 --> 01:09:59,067
The reason you don�t see anything
else circulating on the study
1113
01:09:59,102 --> 01:10:02,335
it was five of us behind closed
doors for two years.
1114
01:10:03,271 --> 01:10:04,261
Wow!
1115
01:10:05,443 --> 01:10:09,323
So after two years of secret
meetings behind closed doors,
1116
01:10:09,347 --> 01:10:13,000
DeStefano emerges with the
final draft of the MMR study
1117
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,487
and they�re going to present it
to the Institute of Medicine.
1118
01:10:16,620 --> 01:10:19,505
People on the IOM
move from:
1119
01:10:19,653 --> 01:10:24,294
industry - government - academia -
government - industry.
1120
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:28,287
And then they bounce around.
It�s all the same people
1121
01:10:28,468 --> 01:10:32,059
there wasn�t a really good
policeman in all this
1122
01:10:32,094 --> 01:10:37,329
to really make sure that the vaccine safety studies
are done properly and that they�re done objectively.
1123
01:10:37,471 --> 01:10:43,200
It just didn�t seem to me like we were
running a system that was credible.
1124
01:10:43,235 --> 01:10:47,368
I had written to Julie Gerberding
and I asked her to postpone
1125
01:10:47,370 --> 01:10:49,626
the February 9th Institute of Medicine meeting.
1126
01:10:50,150 --> 01:10:55,659
This report, the Institute of Medicine report,
I wanted it postponed because of my concern
1127
01:10:55,729 --> 01:11:00,029
that this was not an exercise
in discovering the truth
1128
01:11:00,105 --> 01:11:04,366
but was instead the meeting being
driven by desire to short-circuit
1129
01:11:04,401 --> 01:11:08,065
important research and
draw premature conclusions.
1130
01:11:08,100 --> 01:11:11,730
The problem is William Thompson,
being the lead scientist,
1131
01:11:11,754 --> 01:11:14,954
he�s going to have to
present their findings
1132
01:11:15,030 --> 01:11:16,907
and he�s not happy about it.
1133
01:11:16,942 --> 01:11:18,750
In fact, he�s so upset
1134
01:11:18,785 --> 01:11:21,179
that he goes above the
lead author DeStefano,
1135
01:11:21,214 --> 01:11:23,538
above Walter Orenstein,
1136
01:11:23,573 --> 01:11:27,325
all the way to the head of
the CDC, Dr. Julie Gerberding.
1137
01:11:28,225 --> 01:11:29,863
And in an e-mail he says,
1138
01:11:29,898 --> 01:11:31,259
�Dear Dr. Gerberding,
1139
01:11:31,571 --> 01:11:34,908
I will have to present
several problematic results
1140
01:11:35,057 --> 01:11:41,057
relating to statistical associations between
the receipt of MMR vaccine and autism,�
1141
01:11:41,148 --> 01:11:45,174
basically saying �I�m not
going to continue this lie.
1142
01:11:45,209 --> 01:11:48,475
If you put me up there
I�m going to tell the truth.�
1143
01:11:48,675 --> 01:11:52,998
Thompson was originally
scheduled to provide a briefing
1144
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:56,208
because he basically told
the director Gerberding
1145
01:11:56,380 --> 01:12:00,232
that he would have to say that
there is a causal association.
1146
01:12:00,371 --> 01:12:03,926
He was switched at the last
minute with Frank DeStefano
1147
01:12:03,961 --> 01:12:06,793
who was able to report
to the IOM falsely
1148
01:12:06,938 --> 01:12:10,795
that we have found no association
between MMR and autism.
1149
01:12:10,848 --> 01:12:15,211
The IOM was the point of no return.
So deprived of the truth,
1150
01:12:15,246 --> 01:12:19,864
the IOM declared the
MMR vaccine safe.
1151
01:12:19,899 --> 01:12:24,482
It was a rush to judgment
to shut the door permanently
1152
01:12:24,517 --> 01:12:29,242
and completely on the
MMR/autism link.
1153
01:12:29,277 --> 01:12:34,120
It�s absolutely appalling that much of
what I said turned out exactly to be true.
1154
01:12:34,125 --> 01:12:37,591
They were trying to
short-circuit the research.
1155
01:12:37,767 --> 01:12:42,603
It�s the lowest point of my career
that I went along with that paper.
1156
01:12:42,638 --> 01:12:45,368
After their brilliant work
on the MMR study,
1157
01:12:45,403 --> 01:12:47,980
DeStefano and his
team received an award
1158
01:12:48,182 --> 01:12:50,359
from the Department of Health
and Human Services.
1159
01:12:50,670 --> 01:12:55,728
And then several years later, Dr. Julie
Gerberding received an award of her own.
1160
01:12:55,763 --> 01:13:01,055
a high-paid job as head of the
vaccine division at Merck.
1161
01:13:01,090 --> 01:13:07,018
Clearly, Merck had appreciated the work
she had done investigating their vaccine.
1162
01:13:11,632 --> 01:13:13,125
Just to let you know,
1163
01:13:13,295 --> 01:13:17,387
I wrote a paper on
my results on MMR.
1164
01:13:17,548 --> 01:13:18,298
Yeah.
1165
01:13:18,994 --> 01:13:22,794
And it will include something
that I got from you.
1166
01:13:23,146 --> 01:13:25,039
Brian was about to publish a paper
1167
01:13:25,169 --> 01:13:29,410
using data that could only have come
from an inside source at the CDC,
1168
01:13:29,556 --> 01:13:34,399
a whistleblower, and from that point forward
William Thompson was a marked man.
1169
01:13:34,434 --> 01:13:37,517
Andy approached me and said:
1170
01:13:37,679 --> 01:13:41,107
'It�s time publicize the CDC whistleblower.'
1171
01:13:41,357 --> 01:13:42,980
Ironically, 12 years later,
1172
01:13:43,104 --> 01:13:46,724
while Thompson is baring
his soul to Brian Hooker,
1173
01:13:47,115 --> 01:13:49,063
in front of Congress
Coleen Boyle is just
1174
01:13:49,431 --> 01:13:52,619
peddling the same old CDC fraud,
1175
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:57,315
but this time it�s to a new player and that�s
Congressman Bill Posey from Florida.
1176
01:13:57,602 --> 01:14:02,595
I wonder if CDC has
conducted or facilitated study
1177
01:14:02,702 --> 01:14:05,407
comparing vaccinated children
with unvaccinated children yet.
1178
01:14:05,442 --> 01:14:06,278
Have you done that?
1179
01:14:06,614 --> 01:14:10,603
We have actually done a number of studies
looking at the relationship between
1180
01:14:10,753 --> 01:14:15,597
thimerosal vaccines and autism
and other developmental disabilities.
1181
01:14:15,750 --> 01:14:18,643
The lies from the
CDC were still the same.
1182
01:14:18,667 --> 01:14:22,067
The difference now is we had
William Thompson.
1183
01:14:22,143 --> 01:14:26,386
Vaccines and their components
did not increase the risk for autism.
1184
01:14:27,086 --> 01:14:28,877
My time is very limited here.
1185
01:14:28,912 --> 01:14:30,669
So clearly, definitely,
1186
01:14:30,693 --> 01:14:35,493
unequivocally, you have studied
vaccinated versus unvaccinated?
1187
01:14:36,258 --> 01:14:41,150
We have not studied vaccinated versus unvaccinated. Actually --
1188
01:14:41,180 --> 01:14:45,269
Okay, never mind. Just stop there. That was the meaning of my question. You�ve wasted two minutes of my time.
1189
01:14:45,304 --> 01:14:47,095
Brian had also submitted
1190
01:14:47,229 --> 01:14:51,400
a related paper to a journal
called �Nature Neuroscience�,
1191
01:14:51,401 --> 01:14:55,771
and in that paper he had specifically referred
to an unnamed source at the CDC.
1192
01:14:55,806 --> 01:14:57,842
And my worst fears were realized
1193
01:14:57,993 --> 01:15:01,612
when a journalist from
�Nature Neuroscience� contacted the CDC,
1194
01:15:01,613 --> 01:15:02,919
contacted Walter Orenstein,
1195
01:15:03,087 --> 01:15:07,949
the message went on to Frank DeStefano
who sent it out to the co-authors saying:
1196
01:15:08,030 --> 01:15:11,098
�Keep your heads down!
This may be coming your way.�
1197
01:15:12,009 --> 01:15:16,214
The fear was all of a sudden we�d be
dredging the river for Bill Thompson.
1198
01:15:16,249 --> 01:15:19,369
I said to him �Brian, we�ve
got to do three things.
1199
01:15:19,404 --> 01:15:22,934
We have got to get Thompson
a whistleblower lawyer.
1200
01:15:22,958 --> 01:15:25,858
We�ve got to make sure that
his documents are with Posey,
1201
01:15:25,934 --> 01:15:28,948
and we�ve got to reveal his name.
1202
01:15:28,983 --> 01:15:31,963
Whistleblowers are in danger only
1203
01:15:31,987 --> 01:15:36,987
as long as the only people who know
their identity are their enemies.
1204
01:15:40,422 --> 01:15:42,865
Do vaccines cause autism?
1205
01:15:43,065 --> 01:15:47,084
In the last 30 years, the childhood
vaccine schedule has tripled
1206
01:15:47,119 --> 01:15:51,103
while the U.S. autism rate has skyrocketed
1207
01:15:51,127 --> 01:15:54,827
from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 50.
1208
01:15:54,903 --> 01:15:57,766
Dozens of published research papers
1209
01:15:57,886 --> 01:16:01,591
show that yes, vaccines
and autism are linked.
1210
01:16:01,996 --> 01:16:06,000
Yet, the debate rages on
in part because of the 1986
1211
01:16:06,050 --> 01:16:08,530
National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act
1212
01:16:08,606 --> 01:16:12,547
passed by Congress as a result
of pharmaceutical lobbying.
1213
01:16:13,143 --> 01:16:15,166
It shields drug companies
1214
01:16:15,277 --> 01:16:19,211
from liability for injuries and deaths
caused by the vaccines they manufacture.
1215
01:16:19,778 --> 01:16:25,145
Vaccines that the federal government
admits are unavoidably unsafe.
1216
01:16:25,180 --> 01:16:28,096
Instead of suing the pharmaceutical
company directly,
1217
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:30,095
parents are forced to petition
1218
01:16:30,096 --> 01:16:32,291
the Department of Health
and Human Services
1219
01:16:32,326 --> 01:16:35,407
and if federal officials oppose
the compensation
1220
01:16:35,546 --> 01:16:39,850
the case is argued before a special master
in the U.S. Claims Court.
1221
01:16:39,997 --> 01:16:43,107
Many refer to this as �Vaccine Court�.
1222
01:16:43,307 --> 01:16:48,266
Here are some shocking facts
about the so-called 'Vaccine Court.'
1223
01:16:48,301 --> 01:16:53,226
Pharmaceutical companies do not have
to participate in the proceedings at all.
1224
01:16:53,250 --> 01:16:56,850
Taxpayers pay for all damages.
1225
01:16:57,026 --> 01:17:00,893
The U.S. Department of Justice
acts as a government�s lawyer
1226
01:17:00,917 --> 01:17:05,117
with taxpayers footing
the bill for their defense.
1228
01:17:08,309 --> 01:17:13,237
Beginning in 2002 there were already
thousands of cases accumulating
1229
01:17:13,365 --> 01:17:15,008
in Vaccine Court,
1230
01:17:15,110 --> 01:17:20,686
and the average compensation for autistic
child is in the range of $5 million.
1231
01:17:20,876 --> 01:17:23,212
So just do the math.
The government was facing
1232
01:17:23,236 --> 01:17:27,436
several hundred billion,
possibly a trillion dollars in liability.
1233
01:17:27,612 --> 01:17:33,325
As the autism epidemic grew, they had
to develop a fraudulent study
1234
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:35,340
that would exonerate MMR
1235
01:17:35,482 --> 01:17:40,105
to deliberately defeat the cases in Vaccine Court
to avoid paying the trillion dollars.
1236
01:17:40,212 --> 01:17:46,212
So, the thousands of autism petitioners
were denied their fair day in court
1237
01:17:46,373 --> 01:17:50,373
by a corrupt and deliberate
obstruction of justice.
1238
01:17:50,549 --> 01:17:56,329
It is one of the most unethical
medical decisions of all time
1239
01:17:56,364 --> 01:18:00,009
because it was made with the knowledge to sacrifice these children
1240
01:18:00,033 --> 01:18:03,833
as a direct affront to the
Congressional mandate
1241
01:18:03,857 --> 01:18:05,857
that they�d all be compensated.
1246
01:18:18,510 --> 01:18:22,292
In the fall of last year, I got
a call from an inside source
1247
01:18:22,316 --> 01:18:26,116
who told me that in two weeks there�s going
to be a whistleblower from the CDC
1248
01:18:26,789 --> 01:18:31,884
who�s going to come out and say that the
CDC had committed fraud on the MMR study
1249
01:18:31,885 --> 01:18:35,677
and that they knew that vaccines
were actually causing autism.
1250
01:18:36,036 --> 01:18:38,848
I mean, that�s a huge story.
1251
01:18:39,048 --> 01:18:42,734
Unfortunately, it was a story that I would
not be able to tell on a medical talk show
1252
01:18:42,769 --> 01:18:46,386
because a lot of our funding was coming
from the pharmaceutical industry.
1253
01:18:46,421 --> 01:18:51,399
We were also very good friends with the CDC who had
appeared on our show many, many times.
1254
01:18:51,434 --> 01:18:58,240
But I knew that once the story broke, two weeks later,
that the mainstream news media would pick it up.
1255
01:18:58,250 --> 01:19:01,500
Fox would be on it, CNN would be on it, MSNBC ...
1256
01:19:01,696 --> 01:19:04,143
We�re talking about
the biggest medical story
1257
01:19:04,289 --> 01:19:07,227
in the last decade or two at least.
1258
01:19:07,828 --> 01:19:09,433
So that two weeks came.
1259
01:19:09,468 --> 01:19:12,872
I saw a video that was posted by
Andrew Wakefield and Brian Hooker
1260
01:19:12,907 --> 01:19:16,242
and I heard the words of
William Thompson and his confession.
1261
01:19:16,277 --> 01:19:21,334
Oh, my God! I cannot believe
we did what we did.
1262
01:19:21,573 --> 01:19:22,837
But we did.
1263
01:19:23,308 --> 01:19:25,112
It�s all there. It�s all there.
1264
01:19:25,179 --> 01:19:28,436
And I watched the
blogosphere go crazy.
1265
01:19:28,555 --> 01:19:31,762
Tweets, Facebook, social media -
1266
01:19:31,917 --> 01:19:33,292
everybody talking about it,
1267
01:19:33,293 --> 01:19:39,293
but not one mainstream media source
went anywhere near the story.
1268
01:19:39,323 --> 01:19:42,383
In fact, on CNN someone put the story up
1269
01:19:42,807 --> 01:19:45,607
on iReport and CNN took it down.
1270
01:19:45,915 --> 01:19:47,827
And in that moment I realized,
1271
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:49,598
�Wait a minute.
1272
01:19:49,790 --> 01:19:54,380
Not only is my medical talk show being
produced by the pharmaceutical industry,
1273
01:19:54,577 --> 01:19:57,177
all of television is.
1274
01:19:57,724 --> 01:20:00,318
We were never going to get this story.�
1275
01:20:01,742 --> 01:20:04,942
But we certainly did get a story.
1276
01:20:05,114 --> 01:20:07,632
A highly contagious measles outbreak.
1277
01:20:07,667 --> 01:20:08,568
Major outbreak.
1278
01:20:08,603 --> 01:20:09,434
Measles outbreak.
1279
01:20:09,469 --> 01:20:11,736
Measles on the march in America.
1280
01:20:11,771 --> 01:20:13,969
This outbreak is showing no signs of letting up.
1281
01:20:14,004 --> 01:20:20,004
But in 2014, the number tripled to
644 measles cases reported in 27 states.
1282
01:20:20,665 --> 01:20:24,607
So it�s really amazing to consider
1283
01:20:24,631 --> 01:20:29,031
the number of cases of autism every
year and to contrast that
1284
01:20:29,055 --> 01:20:34,655
to let�s say the number of children who
acquired measles by going to Disneyland.
1285
01:20:34,707 --> 01:20:39,469
It�s a tiny number of children
who acquired measles
1286
01:20:39,493 --> 01:20:41,054
and it�s a vast
1287
01:20:41,056 --> 01:20:44,838
number of children who are being
diagnosed with autism every day.
1289
01:20:47,444 --> 01:20:50,137
We don�t know what causes autism.
1290
01:20:50,172 --> 01:20:54,469
I mean, that�s fair to say. We�re not sure in the
scientific community what causes autism, but
1291
01:20:54,504 --> 01:20:56,916
but we know that vaccines do not.
1292
01:20:57,046 --> 01:21:00,147
Now, I�m not saying that
Sanjay Gupta is a bad guy.
1293
01:21:00,295 --> 01:21:03,119
In fact, I think that
he tries to do a lot of good
1294
01:21:03,154 --> 01:21:05,603
just like many doctors do.
1295
01:21:05,803 --> 01:21:10,987
But if they�re being lied to by the scientific body
that provides them with the information,
1296
01:21:11,022 --> 01:21:13,707
what happens to all of us?
1297
01:21:13,907 --> 01:21:18,355
What happens if a good doctor
sees the same data that I saw?
1298
01:21:18,628 --> 01:21:21,487
So you�re a scientist basically.
1299
01:21:21,522 --> 01:21:24,759
You�re studying this and you feel
one hundred percent comfortable.
1300
01:21:24,761 --> 01:21:28,150
You even said you have kids, so you�re a
family person. You would feel very --
1301
01:21:28,484 --> 01:21:32,242
How long have you been a doctor
and what�s your area of specialty?
1302
01:21:32,442 --> 01:21:36,097
Sure. I�ve been a family medicine
physician for over 10 years now
1303
01:21:36,132 --> 01:21:39,625
and treating families, everyone
from newborns all the way up to --
1304
01:21:39,756 --> 01:21:41,978
my oldest patient is 96.
1305
01:21:42,215 --> 01:21:44,746
So, do you administer
vaccines as a part of that?
1306
01:21:44,770 --> 01:21:46,770
Yes, I do administer vaccines.
1307
01:21:47,155 --> 01:21:50,139
In our clinic we follow the
CDC recommendations
1308
01:21:51,237 --> 01:21:53,531
and we give that information to our patients
1309
01:21:53,846 --> 01:21:58,210
and we give them a schedule when their children
are going to need to be vaccinated and so on and so forth.
1310
01:21:58,410 --> 01:22:00,217
There�s something I want to show you.
1311
01:22:00,252 --> 01:22:06,252
This is a formal complaint about what they�ve been given
by William Thompson, the whistleblower at the CDC, okay?
1312
01:22:06,996 --> 01:22:10,107
There�s also some reference
materials in here and things like that.
1313
01:22:10,252 --> 01:22:15,613
I�m just going to give you time to look at it.
Study it as long as you want, okay?
1314
01:22:16,415 --> 01:22:20,989
When you feel like you have a grasp of it --I know, it�s
going to take some time. I appreciate you taking the time.
1315
01:22:21,013 --> 01:22:23,013
- All right.
- All right? Okay.
1316
01:22:25,147 --> 01:22:30,914
So I have sent you what William Thompson
has said is the fraud at the CDC,
1317
01:22:30,949 --> 01:22:33,592
all of that data that was missing.
1318
01:22:33,665 --> 01:22:36,658
Did you get a chance
to really look it over?
1319
01:22:37,363 --> 01:22:39,684
It�s really unbelievable
1320
01:22:39,847 --> 01:22:44,811
how blatantly the data was switched around.
1321
01:22:45,474 --> 01:22:48,270
It made me question whether
or not this organization
1322
01:22:48,500 --> 01:22:52,100
that�s been mandating
how I practice medicine the past 10 years
1323
01:22:52,111 --> 01:22:58,111
if they�re lying about this or leaving
data out about this particular study,
1324
01:22:58,130 --> 01:23:02,004
what else am I being lied to about?
1325
01:23:04,731 --> 01:23:08,151
I�m still trying to digest it because this study
1326
01:23:08,186 --> 01:23:14,300
which was used to kind of give
the definitive answer to us pediatricians
1327
01:23:14,817 --> 01:23:18,417
that the MMR is not related to autism --
1328
01:23:18,493 --> 01:23:21,069
I kind of feel like I�ve been lied to.
1329
01:23:21,104 --> 01:23:25,683
When they�ve set out to do the study they wanted
to look at the data and interpret the data.
1330
01:23:25,883 --> 01:23:30,713
But then there is a piece
of data that they chose to ignore.
1331
01:23:30,748 --> 01:23:34,855
The data they excluded
was really, really significant.
1332
01:23:34,890 --> 01:23:36,607
Think about it.
It�s a big deal.
1333
01:23:36,896 --> 01:23:41,579
It is a big deal for a physician
to have to deal with the fact
1334
01:23:41,735 --> 01:23:46,282
that for the past 10-20 years
we�ve been potentially...
1335
01:23:47,106 --> 01:23:50,106
destroying the brains of children.
1336
01:23:50,182 --> 01:23:54,006
Everything I�ve been telling
my patients for the last 10 years
1337
01:23:55,256 --> 01:23:58,245
has been based on a lie
and a cover-up.
1338
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:01,119
Parents making decisions
about their children�s health
1339
01:24:01,326 --> 01:24:04,302
deserve to have the best
information available to them
1340
01:24:04,337 --> 01:24:09,088
They should be able to count on
federal agencies to tell them the truth.
1341
01:24:09,288 --> 01:24:11,461
Once Brian and I had outed Bill Thompson
1342
01:24:11,599 --> 01:24:13,288
he got himself a whistleblower lawyer.
1343
01:24:13,323 --> 01:24:16,428
He provided all of his documents
on the fraudulent CDC study
1344
01:24:16,452 --> 01:24:18,052
to Congressman Posey
1345
01:24:18,104 --> 01:24:19,687
who then went before the Congress.
1346
01:24:19,711 --> 01:24:22,411
Considering the nature of the
whistleblower�s documents,
1347
01:24:22,435 --> 01:24:25,135
as well as the involvement of the CDC,
1348
01:24:25,187 --> 01:24:28,422
a hearing and a thorough
investigation is warranted.
1349
01:24:29,419 --> 01:24:35,419
So I ask, Mr. Speaker, I beg, I implore my
colleagues on the Appropriations Committees
1350
01:24:35,791 --> 01:24:38,591
to please, please take such action.
1351
01:24:38,667 --> 01:24:40,343
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I yield back.
1352
01:24:41,177 --> 01:24:44,072
It�s now been seven months
since Congressman Bill Posey
1353
01:24:44,216 --> 01:24:46,625
urged the Congress to
subpoena Bill Thompson,
1354
01:24:46,873 --> 01:24:48,968
and they have done nothing.
1355
01:24:49,306 --> 01:24:51,963
Bill Thompson wants to be
subpoenaed by Congress.
1356
01:24:52,780 --> 01:24:56,194
As the CDC employee from
the federal government
1357
01:24:56,218 --> 01:25:00,818
he cannot speak voluntarily because
of the threat of jail time.
1358
01:25:00,994 --> 01:25:05,145
Absolutely William Thompson
needs to go before Congress.
1359
01:25:05,293 --> 01:25:07,343
He needs to go before
the whole nation.
1360
01:25:07,378 --> 01:25:11,050
Everybody needs to see
what he has to say.
1361
01:25:11,250 --> 01:25:14,307
He needs to be deposed in front
of a committee in Congress,
1362
01:25:14,459 --> 01:25:18,216
and Julie Gerberding has
to be brought in and deposed
1363
01:25:18,251 --> 01:25:21,055
because this is a very, very,
very disturbing revelation.
1364
01:25:21,090 --> 01:25:23,436
For this researcher
to come forward and
1365
01:25:23,460 --> 01:25:29,460
be saying now that they were indeed
deliberately concealing critical information
1366
01:25:29,684 --> 01:25:31,684
about an MMR/autism link --
1367
01:25:32,236 --> 01:25:34,656
a horrible, horrible development.
1368
01:25:34,691 --> 01:25:37,077
Deviation from an analysis plan,
1369
01:25:37,714 --> 01:25:39,531
omission of crucial data,
1370
01:25:40,402 --> 01:25:42,223
destruction of documents,
1371
01:25:42,423 --> 01:25:44,065
obstruction of justice,
1372
01:25:44,815 --> 01:25:46,502
misleading the Congress,
1373
01:25:46,537 --> 01:25:50,025
grievous harm to innocent children
1374
01:25:50,535 --> 01:25:52,996
� this has to be investigated.
1375
01:25:53,196 --> 01:25:57,004
You and I are in agreement. Vaccine
safety should not be in the CDC.
1376
01:25:57,166 --> 01:26:02,152
Absolutely. And, of course, an agency like the
National Transportation Safety Board.
1377
01:26:02,187 --> 01:26:07,403
The next thing they need to do is they need to --
somebody needs to re-introduce the Weldon-Maloney bill.
1378
01:26:07,438 --> 01:26:09,562
It needs to be very,
very quickly enacted
1379
01:26:09,693 --> 01:26:15,125
and you need to take all of the vaccine
safety responsibilities out of the CDC.
1380
01:26:15,161 --> 01:26:20,496
These children have been maimed
by the actions of Coleen Boyle,
1381
01:26:20,749 --> 01:26:24,747
Frank DeStefano, Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop
and Tanya Bhasin.
1382
01:26:24,976 --> 01:26:28,855
My son has been debilitated for 17 years.
1383
01:26:28,890 --> 01:26:34,842
I think jail time is too good for these
individuals who have perpetrated such fraud.
1384
01:26:35,074 --> 01:26:41,074
The notion of vaccinating children,
protecting children against serious infectious disease,
1385
01:26:42,759 --> 01:26:46,056
with vaccines that are safe and effective
1386
01:26:46,587 --> 01:26:48,249
is laudable.
1387
01:26:48,449 --> 01:26:51,668
You hear about measles
outbreaks in Disneyland
1388
01:26:51,794 --> 01:26:53,933
and then they try and sell you MMR.
1389
01:26:53,968 --> 01:26:58,730
We didn�t see autism being reported as a consequence
of the single vaccine,
1390
01:26:58,765 --> 01:27:00,848
only of the triple vaccine.
1391
01:27:00,883 --> 01:27:06,389
So my feeling is that we need to review
vaccination policy across the board.
1392
01:27:06,424 --> 01:27:10,257
But in the first instance, I do believe
that we can make the problem
1393
01:27:10,556 --> 01:27:12,080
far less
1394
01:27:12,314 --> 01:27:14,712
if we separate those vaccines
1395
01:27:14,865 --> 01:27:18,757
out into their single measles, mumps and rubella.
1396
01:27:19,218 --> 01:27:23,343
I just cannot imagine what it will
be like if we really do face
1397
01:27:23,378 --> 01:27:27,469
a future in which half the children born
end up on the autism spectrum.
1398
01:27:27,504 --> 01:27:29,177
I mean, it will be so disruptive
of the school system.
1399
01:27:29,212 --> 01:27:35,068
There�ll be so little money to be able to spend on the normal
children to help them, to bring them up and to educate them.
1400
01:27:35,468 --> 01:27:37,937
We�re just going to have
extremely sick children
1401
01:27:38,061 --> 01:27:41,797
and parents that will
be so distracted by
1402
01:27:41,832 --> 01:27:46,173
the challenge of bringing up
these children that are so sick
1403
01:27:46,208 --> 01:27:49,191
that our society will not
be able to focus on anything else.
1404
01:27:49,226 --> 01:27:55,226
The implications of that for our country, for
competitiveness as a nation, for economy, are massive.
1405
01:27:55,527 --> 01:28:00,069
They must know and they do know
that there�s a national emergency.
1406
01:28:00,104 --> 01:28:04,611
I mean, this is going to be a complete
catastrophe if we just let it happen.
1407
01:28:07,681 --> 01:28:09,231
What will you say
1408
01:28:09,807 --> 01:28:13,412
the next time a mother sitting
there with her baby in her hands
1409
01:28:13,682 --> 01:28:19,051
says: �Dr. Rachel, is the MMR vaccine safe?�
1410
01:28:21,660 --> 01:28:27,660
I�m going to tell her. I�m going to say, �You know, honestly,
I�m not going to give the MMR vaccine to my babies
1411
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:30,433
and here�s why��